Possibility of Korean War

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Talinn, Aug 10, 2017.

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Will a war on the Korean Penninsula happen in the next 4 years?

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  1. Talinn

    Talinn Map Maker

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    Maybe it's a little bit too simple / derpy of a question, but if you had to bet $100, would you bet that the Korean penninsula is going to blow up in flames soon?

    With leaders in North Korea and the US both being retards, I have to say that I'd vote yes.

    Simple yes/no answer, take a bet for the luls of guessing the future.
     
  2. SteakOnSpear

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    I feel like it would be more prudent to just blow them up without warning.
     
  3. Dayne

    Dayne Turncloak Site Staff Map Maker

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    Honestly more scared of Trump starting a war for approval ratings or for whatever idiot reasons. Shit like this quote from Lindsey Graham about Trump:

    "There is a military option to destroy North Korea’s program and North Korea itself. He’s not going to allow, President Trump, the ability of this madman to have a missile to hit America. If there’s going to be a war to stop it, it will be over there. If thousands die, they’re going to die over there — they’re not going to die here. He’s told me that to my face"

    scares me about how Trump may actually react. A war with North Korea means tons of casualties in Seoul just at the start of the war.

    I really hope it doesn't come to a war, and any other president and I would say it wouldn't come to it, but right now I can't be certain.
     
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  4. The_Phalanx

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    Unless the US has a way to prevent Seoul from being wipe off the face of the earth the second war starts, never gonna happen.
     
  5. SteakOnSpear

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    Certainly not when they are giving them heads-up.
     
  6. Complexity.

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    No it won't happen. What I would really like to know is how North-Korea's economy is still standing. How can they even afford the equipment they need and how can they feed their people? I'm far from an expert on the subject but I'd say they are supposed to have trouble with all the economic sanctions going on, right?
     
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    North Korea has one of the worlds largest artillery stockpiles. On top of that, they have large stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons for use with their artillery. The NK/SK border is super mountainous/hilly, and thus most of the military equipment is hidden with shelter compounds underneath said mountains and hills. These are not targets you can bomb to oblivion. North Korea has been preparing for a war since the end of the last Korean War. They can't fight the US, but they can still annihilate South Korea and then get China to intervene.

    The best time to fight North Korea would have been shortly after the collapse of the USSR. Now its just a death sentence for Seoul.
     
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  8. Dayne

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    China funds the shit out of them and dgaf's about UN sanctions. China's also eyeing the Korean peninsula and want a war to destabilize it so they can take it.

    And The_Phalanx is correct. The moment a war starts, Seoul is getting leveled by a huge missile stockpile that's protected by the cover of hills and forests.
     
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  9. Feanor

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    It's honestly very hard to tell. It could easily go very badly. Or nothing could happen and the whole thing could fizzle with some sort of new agreement.
     
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    Oh yeah, also on top of China giving them the pocket change they need to operate, I'm pretty sure estimations of North Korea's GDP and income don't factor in the numerous black market and illegal activities it takes part in.

    For starters it makes a huge amount of money from being the world's biggest producer of counterfeit US currency. They produce super-bills that are good enough to fool Las Vegas.

    Also black market counterfeit cigs, probably some drug trade and human trafficking.

    Basically UN can't really do shit about them until China decides to, and it's in China's interest to either keep NK as a padding or destabilize the peninsula to take it so they're not gonna stop funding them.
     
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    Feanor Member Liaison Officer Global Moderator Diplulzer

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    It's not clear that China can do something. They might be stuck with no real lever to move Kim.
     
  12. supgoat

    supgoat Watcha gonna do with all that cash? Partnered Streamer

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    I seriously doubt that

    Few months of mass starvation from lack of true Chinese support is a pretty strong leverage - china also helps them keep their stockpiles usable, learnt about this in SG army

    Most of their stockpiles are in huge bunkers with the artillery - but problem is they didn't have enough qualified personnel to look after their maintenance, many of their rockets and other gear will likely end up as duds without Chinese expertise
     
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    economic sanctions only work on countries that care about them

    north koreas only trading partners were russia and china anyway and neither russia or china gives a fuk about UN sanctions because UN never backs chinese or russian interests so neither russia nor china has any reason whatsoever to ever listen to UN
    people who live in impoverished conditions since their birth and have their brains washed that they live the best out of everyone in the world really don t put much resistance to their government especially when they fear secret police and etc
    the regime exploits its people by selling them to labor camps in siberia,they also sell their resources they don t need off to china and russia north korea actually sits on rich deposits of resources but allot of them can t be accessed by primitive NK drills you need modern equipment for most of them
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_North_Korea

    it has a tremendous amount of resources to be mined and they sell it cheapear then anywhere else in the world
    which is why neither china nor russia care about UN sanctions and continue to buy those resources off north korea






    but the main problem is that i think neither putin or xi jin ping has enough leverage on kim jong un while they managed to control his father his son kim seems to be completely delusional


    also, take a look at the difference of how real experts report potential casualties and how fake news report casualties

    real experts hundreds of thousands or even millions of casualties if war with NK breaks out

    CNN there is gonna be some death
     
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    Oh they are in huge trouble. Despite some aid from China, china benefits more than NK does. They haven't been able to produce enough food for years now and the country is hugely poverty stricken.

    Wasn't always like this though. In the 60s North Korea was way richer than the South. They completely destroyed the south alone.
     
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    Kim doesn't want to ever wage war. He only wants the status quo to remain.
     
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    So what would be the best way to destroy North Korean without a war? Mass political assassination? I think when push comes to shove America will go to war if they get very very close to reaching main land America with a nuke.
     
  19. The_Phalanx

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    I'd venture that the best long term solution would have been to ignore North Korea completely. Pretend it doesn't exist. Develop effective missile defense systems and then just let the hermit kingdom rot in its mountains. They rattle their sabres each time they want something, and invariably the US has given them a little something each time. They pose no real threat to the US if we prepare ourselves with missile defense systems.

    Any real act of aggression upon the US, or South Korea, or Japan would be met by a world wide coalition to destroy them. They know that and its why they've never done more than trade pot shots.
     
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    They've starved before, and they can always blackmail the west into sending food aid.

    Basic unguided rockets and arty shells don't require much expertise to store or use. Some of their more advanced systems might rely on chinese aid, but even there it's not clear to what extent. And the equipment certainly wouldn't go bad overnight.
     
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